tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post5458694452587577726..comments2023-10-20T02:54:13.426-07:00Comments on Livio's Gaming Blog: History of the Interguild, Part 2: TNT Ruins EverythingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03032224313606398377noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-19724446818265663142011-10-23T04:17:22.245-07:002011-10-23T04:17:22.245-07:00The ladder thing could have been done before the u...The ladder thing could have been done before the uploader broke. All I know is that I had some caves that I was sure uploaded correctly before, but that now no longer upload. These are mostly very high and small levels, so it could be that before the uploader first broke line breaks only took up one character instead of two.Jellsprouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138931920760396304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-4590137487564381632011-10-21T13:08:03.663-07:002011-10-21T13:08:03.663-07:00Oh wow how could I have forgotten that? Maybe beca...Oh wow how could I have forgotten that? Maybe because I never believed that the shockwave error was directly TNT's fault?<br /><br />But that's weird, I have this memory of when I was working on Christmas Blizzard and how when I added a large ladder to the right side of the cave, the cave suddenly went over the character limit, and this was back in December 2006. Or maybe my memory is deceiving me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032224313606398377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-91549265569803363792011-10-21T03:46:22.924-07:002011-10-21T03:46:22.924-07:00It is pretty certain that any " didn't ge...It is pretty certain that any " didn't get backslashes added before them before the first uploader glitch. I made several large level before this glitch that included many ladders. Before the glitch these would upload just fine, but now I get the error message that the level exceeds the character limit.<br />You also forgot perhaps the most crippling error of them all: the Shockwave Error. Some time ago, I think two years or so, the entire game simply stop working for people. Instead it would display a Shockwave Error when loading the game. We figured out it was due to an error in the browser's cache and by clearing your cache or downloading a working cache you might fix it. TNT actually has noticed this and announced on the Neoboards that they were looking for a solution, but so far it hasn't been fixed. This is preventing most people from the game now and is probably the final nail on HatPC's coffin.Jellsprouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138931920760396304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-58386682581687094162011-10-03T00:18:25.090-07:002011-10-03T00:18:25.090-07:00lol my idea would've caused an even worse uplo...lol my idea would've caused an even worse uploader glitch.<br /><br />TehMarz also suggested using H's instead quotes for ladders.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032224313606398377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-74824832860968641482011-10-02T23:25:21.344-07:002011-10-02T23:25:21.344-07:00I'm not sure if htmlspecialchars() would work ...I'm not sure if htmlspecialchars() would work because then pirate_level_load.php would start outputting < and > as & lt; and & gt; (added spaces to display correctly) and then shockwave would somehow have to convert those back to < and > before processing the code and I don't know if shockwave can do that. TehMarz wanted the < and > to be changed to { and } I think but I really doubt TNT would edit an extremely old file and do that. Setting the header to plain text was clearly the best solution. :(Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15619351243910370922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-20012168053345054962011-10-02T22:55:17.473-07:002011-10-02T22:55:17.473-07:00Wow that's a very elegant solution, Thomas. I ...Wow that's a very elegant solution, Thomas. I was thinking more along the lines of using htmlspecialchars(). I remember TehMarz suggesting something even more complicated though, but he was primarily worried about preventing scripting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032224313606398377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-88350386593774810482011-10-02T22:50:51.419-07:002011-10-02T22:50:51.419-07:00The link to jellsprout's profile is broken.
W...The link to jellsprout's profile is broken.<br /><br />Woah, now I know a lot more about IG's history. A few months ago I tried to load a level code into neopets' cavemaker and all the tiles were completely scrambled but I just thought it was my computer. I downloaded CSD's cavemaker and it works great though.<br /><br />The decision to use the < and > symbols wasn't a good idea on TNT's part but the solution to the problem is even worse. What TNT did has made cavemaking more annoying and they don't really care at all.<br /><br />I never really understood this uploader glitch before reading this and I was not sure as to why people used to be able to use arrows on the same line but now that I understand how this works I am surprised at how stupid TNT was/is. They wanted to stop people from injecting HTML into the pirate_level_load.php page, right? ALL they had to do is put the following php code at the top of the pirate_level_load.php page (added spaces so it displays correctly):<br />< ?php<br />header("Content-type: text/plain");<br />? ><br /><br />That will tell the browser that you're pretty much sending a .txt file so no HTML will execute. With that, the problem is solved without messing up the arrows or titles (or the uploader) but apparently their programmers don't put any thoughts into this stuff.<br /><br />Go Aeon!<br /><br />Looking forward to part 3.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15619351243910370922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-8104972851143579272011-10-02T12:59:30.438-07:002011-10-02T12:59:30.438-07:00I think CSD was the one who found it first, and it...I think CSD was the one who found it first, and it was in jell's old research topic. Jell and TehMarz were really active in that conversation. Actually here's the link (you have to be logged in to see it): http://interguild.domingo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1196&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40<br /><br />I remembered Weapon of Choice, but I included CSD's level because it was actually from the Uploader Glitch era.<br /><br />When I was looking up the old posts on what we thought was causing the uploader glitch, we repeatedly mentioned how the uploader was adding backslashes to ladders. But I think that it's always been like that, we just never noticed. But I don't remember it replacing ladders with "-no tages here-" as well. Here's proof: http://interguild.domingo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=436Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032224313606398377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-56308847149026906652011-10-02T12:54:09.755-07:002011-10-02T12:54:09.755-07:00IT DID NOT POST MY COMMENT?!?!
anyways, I knew yo...IT DID NOT POST MY COMMENT?!?!<br /><br />anyways, I knew you were gonna post once upon a PCCA :P damn, I sucked in choosing suitable music.<br /><br />oh well. I also immidiately thought about 'look mom! no arrows!' when you described that glitch.<br /><br />I think you forgot something though, we also had some time that we couldn't use ladders in our levels, cuz of the "-> /" thingie. "-add tags here-" was there too..<br /><br />Lookin forward to seeing the next part!Shoval(shos)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06848637089357041160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1936804295276925901.post-25323750841825680282011-10-02T11:59:06.801-07:002011-10-02T11:59:06.801-07:00Don't forget that we had already won the CotW ...Don't forget that we had already won the CotW before it began to drop in quality (CSD, me, Google246) and that we overall had somewhere around 12 total CotW winners on the Interguild.<br /><br />I only remember TehMarz finding the HTML glitch? Did CSD and Jell that as well?<br /><br />(also my level Weapon Of Choice is also without arrows...)<br /><br />/IsaAxel Wikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04799914084640397273noreply@blogger.com